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Is Monogamy a Key Cause of High Divorce Rates?

Joleneakamama said:
So......there are women who might choose this.....if they only knew or saw positive examples.
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My sw told me yesterday that a woman she met online is considering being a man's second wife. The man she has invested 2 years into isn't "ready" for marriage and children. *eye roll*
 
ASyers41 said:
So I still don’t believe in this case that a woman can file a divorce. She could however, put herself away until such a time when he has sought appropriate counsel and healing. Biblically speaking a woman has zero authority to file divorce no matter what the cause. I realize that is going to probably be an unpopular opinion but nowhere do we see a woman in scripture giving a bill of divorce to a man. Abigail did no such thing when Nabal was being harsh and foolish. She waited for his death and then David took Abigail to be his wife.
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Putting herself away is an option, I wouldn’t disagree. What if she has no financial or familial resources to do so? It seems a bit pie in the sky to think that’s always the solution. I’m not encouraging divorce, and we know that God hates it. But on a justice scale, it less intrusive than potentially irreparable health and harm due to abuse.
 
Mojo said:
Putting herself away is an option, I wouldn’t disagree. What if she has no financial or familial resources to do so? It seems a bit pie in the sky to think that’s always the solution. I’m not encouraging divorce, and we know that God hates it. But on a justice scale, it less intrusive than potentially irreparable health and harm due to abuse.
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I guess she’s getting a job etc until her husband gets right with God. It isn’t ideal but she doesn’t have Biblical Grounds for a divorce. I know that’s not what the feminist want to hear but it’s true.
 
ASyers41 said:
I guess she’s getting a job etc until her husband gets right with God. It isn’t ideal but she doesn’t have Biblical Grounds for a divorce. I know that’s not what the feminist want to hear but it’s true.
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And multiple dependent children, including infants or toddlers? Mom gets a job to support them? Who cares for them? Strangers? If husband is a drug addict on the street, does she work under the authority of another man to pay for the care that another man has broken his obligation for?
 
A lot of the points made here, were made in the book "The History and Philosophy of Marriage" by James Campbell written back in 1869, and those of you who are new to Biblical Families, I would highly recommend you either purchase the book and read it, or find a free copy available online. In the book, Campbell (most likely a pseudonym) highlights several things that are wrong with society, and pins the blame squarely on the monogamy only heresy. If you can find an online copy of the book, you can copy and paste (and of course give attribution to) any text that you find that will support your argument against the adherents who claim that the Bible is our sole source of authority, until it isn't, when it comes to this heretical dogma.
 
Mark C said:
Amen. A big part of the problem is that most 'sunday-xtians' don't understand that the Hebrew word "isha" has been too-often conflated with just 'woman.' It OFTEN means 'wife,' and context is key.
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I thought isha was always a woman who belongs to a man- in the OT. In the NT we have the greek which uses gyne (goonay) 221 times and in MOST cases it is inferred that she belongs to someone and the translators used the obvious word WIFE (his gyne) and also "woman" because the subsequent phrases includes children, e.g. "women and children".
Therefore when a man looks on a gyne with lust in his heart (Matt 5:28) he is looking at a woman that belongs to someone else, and the resultant adultery charge from Jesus.
Contrast that with "virgin" (parthenos) who obviously has no man. In I Cor 7:34 there is difference also between a wife(gyne) and a virgin (parthenos). The unmarried woman [woman is inferred by translators] (agamos- used only 4x) careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
Now, the obvious question arises, "can a man be committing adultery if he is lusting after an UNMARRIED woman?" Jesus did NOT say so, therefore NO.
Unfortunately the modern church has even condoned the offended wife of a man stuck in porn to divorce her husband as the porn is equated to adultery. It is a mark of a society that a woman seizes control of a deteriorating familial (and churchianity) life A la, Isaiah 3.
 
Maddog said:
Contrast that with "virgin" (parthenos) who obviously has no man.
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Not accurate. Mary was a virgin betrothed to Joseph.
Betrothal was considered the initial stage of marriage, so much so that it takes a divorce to break it. He was going to do it quietly.
 
Man_in_the_Middle said:
breaking a covenant does not void the covenant. Adultery is breaking of the covenant but still does not void the covenant.

As is evidenced by the fact that both the House of Israel and the House of Judah broke the marriage covenant with God and committed adultery with other gods. He then chose to divorce one of the adulterous wives and keep the other one.

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
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Read again my message and think little long term.

Woman would only be married depending how long it takes legal system to execute her husband.

I doubt any legal system would "look through fingers" attempted murder.

If evidence was public and strong enough, everybody would know she would be marriable soon.

Any even if she survives it's evil to put victim and offender together.

You can't qoute Bible verse about divorce. You also need to read verses about murder and asks yourself what if husband attempts to kill his wife. It's possible situation, you know.

Nobody thinking would put divorce verses before murder verses.
 
steve said:
Not accurate. Mary was a virgin betrothed to Joseph.
Betrothal was considered the initial stage of marriage, so much so that it takes a divorce to break it. He was going to do it quietly.
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There are very few "Marys" in scripture.
 
Maddog said:
There are 221 uses of gyne in the NT, Mary was one. Does 1 reference stand on par with 221?
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I think Steve's point is just that a betrothed woman was considered basically married (though still a virgin).

The Law said that a betrothed woman (still a virgin) who willingly had sex with a man other than her betrothed was to be put to death (the man too). That was the same as the punishment for adultery.

Things were different if a man slept with a virgin who was not betrothed.

Deuteronomy 22:23-28
 
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